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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:44 pm
by rolotomasi99
The Original BJ wrote:Carey Mulligan is obviously the lead in Never Let Me Go. I would also be shocked if she were nominated for Best Actress.
I've been wanting to write about the movie since I saw it, but I haven't had a chance. The acting standout, for me, was, shockingly Keira Knightley.
Alright, my mistake. I will swap Mulligan for Knightley in my predictions based on your recommendation The Original BJ.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:35 pm
by The Original BJ
Carey Mulligan is obviously the lead in Never Let Me Go. I would also be shocked if she were nominated for Best Actress.
I've been wanting to write about the movie since I saw it, but I haven't had a chance. The acting standout, for me, was, shockingly Keira Knightley.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:01 pm
by rolotomasi99
OscarGuy wrote:Just like the Academy ghetto-allocates leads in support and we admonish them regularly for doing so, but the PR firms are more responsible for all of that than the Academy members. After all, they have rebelled against that type of placement with nominations such as Keisha Castle-Hughes in Whale Rider which was advertised heavily in support.
As for your assertion, the trailer makes Mulligan's part feel like support, giving the film fully to Keira Knightley. At least, that was my impression never having read the book. Andrew Garfield also seems like a supporting character in the trailer.
As for True Grit, I'm fairly certain Hailee Steinfield will get pushed for support if only because lead is far too crammed full this year. They'll see Jeff Bridges as the lead and since Steinfield isn't really a romantic co-lead, they'll relegate her to support without thinking twice about it.
Exactly what I just said...only you said it better.
The Keisha-Castle Hughes example has to be the most insulting of all the attempts to push a lead performance for a supporting nomination. Who the fuck was the lead if not her...the whales?????
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:44 pm
by OscarGuy
Just like the Academy ghetto-allocates leads in support and we admonish them regularly for doing so, but the PR firms are more responsible for all of that than the Academy members. After all, they have rebelled against that type of placement with nominations such as Keisha Castle-Hughes in Whale Rider which was advertised heavily in support.
As for your assertion, the trailer makes Mulligan's part feel like support, giving the film fully to Keira Knightley. At least, that was my impression never having read the book. Andrew Garfield also seems like a supporting character in the trailer.
As for True Grit, I'm fairly certain Hailee Steinfield will get pushed for support if only because lead is far too crammed full this year. They'll see Jeff Bridges as the lead and since Steinfield isn't really a romantic co-lead, they'll relegate her to support without thinking twice about it.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:18 pm
by Sonic Youth
rolotomasi99 wrote:You know perfectly well that does not matter to the Academy. Matt Damon in INVICTUS was the co-lead as far as I was concerned but they found a way to cram him into supporting.
It must have been due to all those FYC ads and precursor groups who decided Damon was supporting. Perhaps they, in turn, were misled by all the reviews and Oscar discussion groups like this one who neglected to call Damon's role a lead?
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:40 am
by rolotomasi99
flipp525 wrote:rolotomasi99 wrote:S. ACTRESS
Carey Mulligan - Never Let Me Go
Kathy is the main character of Never Let Me Go. Undoubtedly, Mulligan's is a lead performance.
You know perfectly well that does not matter to the Academy. Matt Damon in INVICTUS was the co-lead as far as I was concerned but they found a way to cram him into supporting. There are countless examples of that. Hailee Steinfield seems like the lead in TRUE GRIT, but she will most likely be considered supporting for a possible nomination.
I do not in any way question your assertion that Mulligan is the lead. I have not seen the film, so I have no idea if she even deserves a nomination. I was just looking for a filler in that category. However, do not underestimate a studio's ability to push a lead performance for a supporting nomination. We will not know until we see the FYC ads.
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:07 pm
by flipp525
rolotomasi99 wrote:S. ACTRESS
Carey Mulligan - Never Let Me Go
Kathy is the main character of Never Let Me Go. Undoubtedly, Mulligan's is a lead performance.
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:00 pm
by rolotomasi99
BEST PICTURE
127 Hours
Another Year
Black Swan
Inception
The Kids Are All Right
The King's Speech
Shutter Island
The Social Network
Toy Story 3
True Grit
DIRECTOR
Black Swan
Inception
The Kids Are All Right
The Social Network
True Grit
ADAPTED
Shutter Island
The Social Network
True Grit
Toy Story 3
Winter's Bone
ORIGINAL
Another Year
Black Swan
Inception
The Kids Are All Right
The King's Speech
L. ACTOR
Jim Broadbent - Another Year
Leo Dicaprio - Shutter Island
Colin Firth - The King's Speech
Jeff Bridges - True Grit
James Franco - 127 Hours
L. ACTRESS
Julianne Moore - The Kids Are All Right
Annette Bening - The Kids Are All Right
Natalie Portman - Black Swan
Jennifer Lawrence - Winter's Bone
Nicole Kidman - Rabbit Hole
S. ACTOR
Aaron Eackhart - Rabbit Hole
Geoffrey Rush - The King's Speech
Jeremy Renner - The Town
Sam Rockwell - Conviction
Christian Bale - The Fighter
S. ACTRESS
Keira Knightley - Never Let Me Go
Lesley Manville - Another Year
Marion Cotillard - Inception
Helena Bonham Carter - The King's Speech
Hailee Steinfield - True Grit
EDITING
127 Hours
Black Swan
Inception
The Social Network
True Grit
CINEMATOGRAPHY
127 Hours
Black Swan
Inception
Shutter Island
True Grit
SET
Alice In Wonderland
The Deathly Hallows
Inception
Tron Legacy
Shutter Island
COSTUME
Alice In Wonderland
The King's Speech
Shutter Island
The Tempest
True Grit
SCORE
Inception
The King's Speech
Never Let Me Go
The Tempest
True Grit
SOUND
127 Hours
Inception
Iron Man 2
Toy Story 3
Tron Legacy
SOUND EDITING
Inception
Iron Man 2
The Tempest
Toy Story 3
Tron Legacy
VISUAL EFFECTS
Alice In Wonderland
The Deathly Hallows
Inception
Iron Man 2
Tron Legacy
MAKE-UP
Black Swan
The Tempest
The Wolf Man
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:24 pm
by Sabin
Eh. I'm gonna try this out.
Best Picture
127 Hours
Inception
The Kids Are All Right
The King's Speech
Love and Other Drugs
Rabbit Hole
Secretariat
The Social Network
Toy Story 3
True Grit
Best Director
Danny Boyle, 127 Hours
Lisa Cholodenko, The Kids Are All Right
Joel & Ethan Coen, True Grit
David Fincher, The Social Network
Tom Hopper, The King's Speech
Best Actor
Jeff Bridges, True Grit
Jesse Eisenberg, The Social Network
Colin Firth, The King's Speech
James Franco, 127 Hours
Paul Giamatti, Barney's Version
Best Actress
Annette Bening, The Kids Are All Right
Anne Hathaway, Love and Other Drugs
Nicole Kidman, Rabbit Hole
Diane Lane, Secretariat
Julianne Moore, The Kids Are All Right
Best Supporting Actor
Christian Bale, The Fighter
Aaron Eckhart, Rabbit Hole
Andrew Garfield, The Social Network
Mark Ruffalo, The Kids Are All Right
Geoffrey Rush, The King's Speech
Best Supporting Actress
Helena Bonham Carter, The King's Speech
Minnie Driver, Barney's Version
Sandra Oh, Rabbit Hole
Hailee Steinfeld, True Grit
Dianne Wiest, Rabbit Hole
Best Original Screenplay
Another Year
Inception
The Kids Are All Right
The King's Speech
...uh...something else.
Best Adapted Screenplay
127 Hours
Rabbit Hole
The Social Network
Toy Story 3
True Grit
Best Cinematography
Inception
The King's Speech
Secretariat
Shutter Island
True Grit
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:12 pm
by Big Magilla
I didn't get that implication from your comments. I checked it out on IMDb. where there is no posted U.S. release date.
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:00 pm
by rain Bard
Oh, I didn't mean to imply that Uncle Boonmee is sans distribution. It's been picked up by the small gay-themed distributor Strand. I don't believe it's expected to be shown theatrically in the states until 2011.
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:20 am
by Big Magilla
I suppose they could be jaded, but maybe it's just the overwhelming volume. It could be that they feel obligated to sit through the films they know they'll be asked about and sample those they don't expect to have to and if they find they like them, stay, but if they're bored, then walk out.
The walkouts on Uncle Boonmee are surprising, though. It's also surprising that no one has picked the film for distribution in the U.S. Maybe it will have better luck after it plays at the New York Film Festival this Saturday.
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:11 am
by rain Bard
Big Magilla wrote:rain Bard wrote:Of the 200+ other features in the festival, the ones it was impossible to escape hearing all about included 127 Hours, the King’s Speech and Black Swan. Anything else paled in comparison for "being-talked-about". As a first-time attendee of the festival, I didn’t expect to see so many walkouts at every press screening I attended (not so the public screenings). But apparently nobody walks out of films like these. Marching orders from editors? Or publicists? Who knows?
Intriguing.
Let me indulge in a little elaboration. After watching the Illusionist on the second afternoon of the festival with a friend (also from San Francisco- there was quite a contingent of familiar faces at the Press & Industry screenings I attended, mostly programmers for local festivals and venues, but a few other critic/writer types too) I noted how few walkouts there were at this distribution-deal-in-place film, compared to my previous screenings (Lapland Odyssey, Poetry, Marimbas From Hell, a Useful Life and the Strange Case of Angelica), which each must have had at least a dozen mid-film exits apiece. While my friend, who had just come from Black Swan and the Woody Allen film, had felt just the opposite- that he hadn't noticed ANY walkouts at those American films, and was disheartened to see what he felt were so many people (actually probably more than a dozen as well, but this was out of an audience of hundreds- one of the largest crowds I sat among in the P&I screenings) not responding to a film he found so emotionally resonant.
I get the sense that a lot of the critics at these screenings treat the festival as an elaborate junket, where they get to see 10 or 15 of the fall season's pre-hyped films all in one go. They may take advantage of the fact that there are 200+ other films screening near them to sample a few, and get a sense of them (Occasionally I'd even see people enter the screening room for the first time, an hour into a film), but if they're not guaranteed a paycheck for writing about them in their local outlet, there's no incentive to stick with the whole film, especially if there's anything challenging about it. Even Cannes winner Uncle Boonmee, which I'd think would be required viewing for any film professional, had about a dozen walkouts.
The line for the first Black Swan P&I screening, by the way, dominated the multiplex it was in so much that volunteers who saw me walk by it assumed I was trying to cut in line and reprimanded me, until I explained that I was actually on my way to another film a few rooms over. Though before attending Toronto I had a sense of it being a festival where critics and audiences find new "discoveries", there's clearly some factor (or factors) that preordain most or all of these discoveries before the festival, or its press screenings, begin. The King's Speech felt like a foregone breakout before it had its first showing at the festival, for example. Whether that's because of Telluride, because of behind-the-scenes publicist wrangling, or what, I do not know.
By comparison, the year I attended Sundance as press, I genuinely felt like there were surprises that were able to cut through the hype of expectations due to stars present, distribution deals, etc.
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:33 pm
by OscarGuy
This really isn't the thread to bring my attention to any game...
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:21 pm
by Reza
OscarGuy wrote:I recognize what Eric said as being facetious, but I also think Reza was trying to make a joke upon the joke, but I'm not 100% clear on what the desired result was.
Nothing actually OG......just trying to get your attention. You DID finally get back to the game.....only you need to make corrections.