[PO] Penelope's Elimination Game

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Best Picture 1966. Don't really have to think about this one. Gotta give it to The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming. It's really one of the funniest movies of the 1960s.

dws1982, Best Actor 1934.
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I think A Clockwork Orange is a wonderful film, but not up to the masterpieces of Kubrick: Paths of Glory, Dr. Strangelove and Eyes Wide Shut (I haven't seen Lolita or Barry Lyndon). Hopefully, he will get his dues elsewhere. As for Bognonavich, this is his masterpiece out of an underrated career. I would have also nominted him for What's Up Doc? (one of our most underrated comic gems) and Paper Moon, which is phenomenal. His output has never been that great again, but every now and them he gives us a good minor film like The Cat's Meow or Noises Off.

I wonder if your dislike of the Western genre is carrying over here, Wes, because so much of the film is a reflection of that dying art form. Ben Johnson is so heartbreaking and touching in his performance, and coming from an actor who I don't think was ever capable of giving a performance like that. What a perfect cap to his career.
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And let me clarify some things. I don't hate Last Picture Show. I like it for the most part. But I don't think it deserved to win Best Picture. I think Stanley Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange takes the viewer to a fictional future that has significant modern implications. As wild as it may seem, the conservative right would love nothing more than to implement a type of "re-education" program to make violent offenders incapable of defending themselves. That this film exists cautions against such moral implications. The film is resonant, vibrant and, IMO, Kubrick's absolute pinnacle achievement.
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I haven't seen Paper Moon. I said he didn't do anything spectacular IN Last Picture Show.

I'll give you a couple of the performances as outstanding. I loved Eileen Brennan and really thought Cloris Leachman was smashing. I didn't think Ben Johnson was very good and most of the young male cast was unexceptional.

Really, the entire thing just felt like a student film. I'd say this is about the same quality (with better performances) than American Graffiti.
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Another one chiming in on the wonderful-ness that is The Last Picture Show. From start to finish, it's a total gem with beautiful Oscar-winning supporting performances (although let's give Burstyn's nod to the non-nominated Eileen Brennan) and memorable cinematography. And I have to disagree with you OscarGuy that Bogdanovich didn't do anything spectacular after this film; Paper Moon is one of the best films of the seventies.



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Sorry, my man, but let me join the chorus of praise for The Last Picture Show, a film I adore, and am overjoyed that it is in fact sweeping here in our game.

In reference to Sabin's challenge, I am glad that you have seen it, but saddened that you didn't find it glorious...
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Just as in real life, Kubrick gets no respect. Complete and total shame (since Bogdonavich didn't do anything really spectacular in Last Picture Show).
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Well, this is easy. I can't deny the award to one of our most underrated directors, Peter Bogdonavich. The others all do fine work, but it is not their best.

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First of all I have to say I haven't seen Being There...

For me, this is between Hoffman and Scheyder. I admired both performances for different reasons, and I'm really torn between them but I guess Hoffman's Kramer is iconic enough to force me to use my first pass... specially since I took his 1988 trophy away from him. But that wasn't as hard as this would be considering Scheyder is not Von Sydow.
I don't see him getting the award otherwise in this game (even in 1967 he had though competition) so I'm going to keep Hoffman's award. Hope nobody really hates me for this...

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It's weird, when I update the original thread, it sometimes comes through and sometimes doesn't; anyway, I'll include the the update here (including my choice for Supporting Actress 1939), as well as the reshuffling of players:

Cinematography '32/'33: Reunion in Vienna eliminates A Farewell to Arms

Actor '34: William Powell eliminates Clark Gable

Adapted Screenplay '35: The Lives of a Bengal Lancer eliminates The Informer

Supporting Actress '36: Alice Brady eliminates Gale Sondargaard

Director ’37: Gregory LaCava eliminates Leo McCarey
Actress '37: Greta Garbo eliminates Luise Rainer

Picture ’39: The Wizard of Oz eliminates Gone with the Wind
Supporting Actress '39: Maria Ouspenskaya eliminates Hattie McDaniel

Actress '40: Joan Fontaine eliminates Ginger Rogers

Picture '41: Citizen Kane eliminates How Green Was My Valley
Actress '41: Greer Garson eliminates Joan Fontaine

Supporting Actress ’42: Agnes Moorhead eliminates Teresa Wright

Picture ’43: Casablanca remains the winner

Adapted Screenplay '44: Laura eliminates Going My Way

Picture ’45: Spellbound eliminates The Lost Weekend

Director ’46: William Wyler remains the winner

Actress ’47: Joan Crawford eliminates Loretta Young

Director '48: Laurence Olivier eliminates John Huston

Director '49: William Wyler eliminates Joseph L. Mankiewicz

Actress ’50: Bette Davis eliminates Judy Holliday
Supporting Actress ’50: Celeste Holm eliminates Josephine Hull
Black & White Cinematography ’50: All About Eve eliminates The Third Man

Director '51: Elia Kazan eliminates George Stevens
Actor '51: Montgomery Clift eliminates Humphrey Bogart
Actress ’51: Katharine Hepburn eliminates Vivien Leigh
Supporting Actress ’51: Kim Hunter remains the winner

Director '52: John Ford remains the winner

Actor '53: Montgomery Clift eliminates William Holden

Director '54: Alfred Hitchcock eliminates Elia Kazan
Actor ’54: James Mason eliminates Marlon Brando
Actress '54: Dorothy Dandridge eliminates Grace Kelly
Screenplay '54: Rear Window eliminates The Country Girl
Original Song '54: "The Man That Got Away" eliminates "Three Coins in the Fountain"

Picture '55: Marty remains the winner
Actor '55: James Dean eliminates Ernest Borgnine
Actress '55: Katharine Hepburn eliminates Anna Magnani

Picture '56: Giant eliminates Around the World in 80 Days
Adapted Screenplay ’56: Friendly Persuasion eliminates Around the World in 80 Days

Actress ’57: Lana Turner eliminates Joanne Woodward
Supporting Actor '57: Sessue Hayakawa eliminates Red Buttons

Picture '58: The Defiant Ones eliminates Gigi
Actress '58: Susan Hayward remains the winner

Original Screenplay '59: The 400 Blows eliminates Pillow Talk

Director ’60: Alfred Hitchcock eliminates Billy Wilder
Supporting Actor ’60: Sal Mineo eliminates Peter Ustinov

Actor '61: Paul Newman eliminates Maximilian Schell
Actress '61: Audrey Hepburn eliminates Sophia Loren

Actor ’62: Gregory Peck remains the winner
Actress '62: Lee Remick eliminates Anne Bancroft
B&W Cinematography '62: Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? eliminates The Longest Day

Director '63: Federico Fellini eliminates Tony Richardson
Original Screenplay '63: 8 1/2 eliminates How the West was Won

Picture '64: Dr. Strangelove eliminates My Fair Lady
Actor '64: Peter Sellers eliminates Rex Harrison
Original Song '64: "Hush...Hush Sweet Charlotte" eliminates "Chim-chim-cheree"

Actor '65: Oskar Werner eliminates Lee Marvin
Actress '65: Samantha Eggar eliminates Julie Christie

Picture '66: The Russians Are Coming The Russians Are Coming eliminates A Man for all Seasons
Actress ’66: Ida Kaminska eliminates Elizabeth Taylor

Picture ’67: The Graduate eliminates In the Heat of the Night
Supporting Actor '67: Gene Hackman eliminates George Kennedy
Adapted Screenplay ’67: The Graduate eliminates In the Heat of the Night

Director ’68: Gillo Pontecorvo eliminates Carol Reed
Actor '68: Peter O'Toole eliminates Cliff Robertson
Supporting Actress ’68: Ruth Gordon remains the winner
Original Song ’68: “Star!” eliminates “The Windmills of My Mind”

Actor '69: Jon Voight eliminates John Wayne
Supporting Actress ’69: Goldie Hawn remains the winner

Director '70: Robert Altman eliminates Franklin J. Schaffner
Actor '70: Melvyn Douglas eliminates George C. Scott
Original Score ’70: Patton eliminates Love Story

Picture '71: The Last Picture Show eliminates The French Connection
Director '71: Peter Bogdonovich eliminates William Friedkin
Actress '71: Julie Christie eliminates Jane Fonda
Cinematography ’71: The Last Picture Show eliminates Fiddler on the Roof

Director '72: Francis Ford Coppola eliminates Bob Fosse
Actor ’72: Paul Winfield eliminates Marlon Brando
Supporting Actor '72: Al Pacino eliminates Joel Grey
Supporting Actress '72: Shelley Winters eliminates Eileen Heckart

Picture '73: Cries and Whispers eliminates The Sting
Film Editing ’73: American Graffiti eliminates The Sting

Best Picture '74: The Towering Inferno eliminates The Godfather Part II
Actor '74: Jack Nicholson eliminates Art Carney
Actress '74: Gena Rowlands eliminates Ellen Burstyn
Supporting Actress '74: Madeline Kahn eliminates Ingrid Bergman

Director ’75: Robert Altman eliminates Milos Forman
Actress '75: Isabelle Adjani eliminates Louise Fletcher
Supporting Actress '75: Lily Tomlin eliminates Lee Grant
Cinematography '75: Barry Lyndon remains the winner

Picture ’76: All the President’s Men eliminates Rocky
Actress '76: Liv Ullmann eliminates Faye Dunaway
Supporting Actress ’76: Piper Laurie eliminates Beatrice Straight

Picture '77: Annie Hall remains the winner
Director ’77: Steven Spielberg eliminates Woody Allen
Supporting Actor ’77: Jason Robards remains the winner
Supporting Actress ’77: Tuesday Weld eliminates Vanessa Redgrave
Original Score '77: Star Wars remains the winner

Actress '78: Ingrid Bergman eliminates Jane Fonda
Original Screenplay ’78: Autumn Sonata eliminates Coming Home

Picture ’79: All That Jazz eliminates Kramer vs. Kramer
Actor '79: Dustin Hoffman remains the winner
Cinematography ’79: Apocalypse Now remains the winner

Director ’80: David Lynch eliminates Robert Redford
Actor ’80: John Hurt eliminates Robert DeNiro
Supporting Actress ’80: Eileen Brennan eliminates Mary Steenburgen
Adapted Screenplay ’80: The Elephant Man eliminates Ordinary People
Original Score '80: The Elephant Man eliminates Fame

Original Screenplay '81: Atlantic City eliminates Chariots of Fire
Original Score '81: Raiders of the Lost Ark eliminates Chariots of Fire

Picture ’82: E.T. eliminates Gandhi
Actor '82: Jack Lemmon eliminates Ben Kingsley
Original Score ’82: Poltergeist eliminates E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial

Director ’83: Ingmar Bergman eliminates James L. Brooks
Supporting Actor '83: Sam Shepard eliminates Jack Nicholson
Supporting Actress '83: Linda Hunt remains the winner

Actress '84: Judy Davis eliminates Sally Field
Supporting Actor ’84: Haing S. Ngor remains the winner
Supporting Actress '84: Lindsay Crouse eliminates Peggy Ashcroft
Original Song ’84: “Ghostbusters” eliminates “I Just Called to Say I Love You”

Picture '85: Kiss of the Spider Woman eliminates Out of Africa
Original Screenplay ’85: The Official Story eliminates Witness

Original Screenplay '86: My Beautiful Laundrette eliminates Hannah and Her Sisters
Original Score '86: Hoosiers eliminates 'Round Midnight

Director '87: Norman Jewison eliminates Bernardo Bertolucci
Actor '87: Marcello Mastroianni eliminates Michael Douglas
Supporting Actor ’87: Albert Brooks eliminates Sean Connery
Original Screenplay ’87: Radio Days eliminates Moonstruck

Director ’88: Martin Scorsese eliminates Bernardo Bertolucci
Actor '88: Max von Sydow eliminates Dustin Hoffman
Supporting Actress ’88: Geena Davis remains the winner
Original Song ’88: “Let the River Run” remains the winner

Director ’89: Woody Allen eliminates Oliver Stone
Actor ’89: Morgan Freeman eliminates Daniel Day Lewis
Supporting Actress '89: Dianne Wiest eliminates Brenda Fricker
Original Screenplay '89: Do the Right Thing eliminates Dead Poets Society

Actress ’90: Meryl Streep eliminates Kathy Bates
Director '90: Stephen Frears eliminates Kevin Costner
Original Screenplay ’90: Avalon eliminates Ghost

Picture '91: JFK eliminates The Silence of the Lambs
Supporting Actress '91: Jessica Tandy eliminates Mercedes Ruehl
Original Song '91: "Be Our Guest" eliminates "Beauty and the Beast"

Picture ’92: The Crying Game eliminates Unforgiven
Actor ’92: Stephen Rea eliminates Al Pacino
Actress ’92: Susan Sarandon eliminates Emma Thompson
Cinematography ’92: Unforgiven eliminates A River Runs Through It

Picture ’93: The Piano eliminates Schindler’s List

Actor '94: Paul Newman eliminates Tom Hanks
Picture '94: Quiz Show eliminates Forrest Gump
Original Screenplay ’94: Red eliminates Pulp Fiction
Original Score '94: Little Women eliminates The Lion King

Director ’95: Tim Robbins eliminates Mel Gibson
Actor ’95: Sean Penn eliminates Nicolas Cage

Picture '96: Fargo eliminates The English Patient
Actor '96: Woody Harrelson eliminates Geoffrey Rush
Actress ’96: Emily Watson eliminates Frances McDormand
Original Screenplay ’96: Lone Star eliminates Fargo

Actor '97: Robert Duvall eliminates Jack Nicholson
Actress '97: Julie Christie eliminates Helen Hunt
Adapted Screenplay '97: The Sweet Hereafter eliminates L.A. Confidential
Cinematography ’97: L.A. Confidential eliminates Titanic

Director '98: Terence Malick eliminates Steven Spielberg
Actor ’98: Edward Norton eliminates Roberto Benigni
Supporting Actor '98: Robert Duvall eliminates James Coburn
Adapted Screenplay ’98: The Thin Red Line eliminates Gods and Monsters
Original Score '98: The Thin Red Line eliminates Life is Beautiful

Picture '99: American Beauty remains the winner
Actor ’99: Richard Farnsworth eliminates Kevin Spacey
Actress '99: Julianne Moore eliminates the Agent of Satan
Supporting Actress ’99: Toni Collette eliminates Angelina Jolie
Adapted Screenplay ’99: Election eliminates The Cider House Rules
Original Screenplay '99: The Sixth Sense eliminates American Beauty
Cinematography '99: The End of the Affair eliminates American Beauty
Original Score ’99: Angela’s Ashes eliminates The Red Violin

Actor '00: Javier Bardem eliminates Russell Crowe
Film Editing: Traffic remains the winner

Picture ’01: Gosford Park eliminates A Beautiful Mind
Director ’01: Peter Jackson eliminates Ron Howard
Adapted Screenplay '01: Ghost World eliminates A Beautiful Mind
Original Score ’01: Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone eliminates LOTR: Fellowship

Picture '02: The Pianist eliminates Chicago
Actress '02: Renée Zelleweger eliminates Nicole Kidman
Cinematography ’02: Far From Heaven eliminates Road to Perdition

Supporting Actor ’03: Tim Robbins remains the winner
Supporting Actress '03: Shoreh Aghdashloo eliminates Renée Zellweger
Original Screenplay ’03: Lost in Translation remains the winner

Picture '04: Million Dollar Baby remains the winner
Actor '04: Clint Eastwood eliminates Jamie Foxx
Actress '04: The Glorious and Great Goddess Known to Mere Mortals as Kate Winslet annihilates the Agent of Satan
Supporting Actor '04: Morgan Freeman remains the winner

Picture '05: Brokeback Mountain eliminates Crash
Director '05: Steven Spielberg eliminates Ang Lee
Actor '05: Heath Ledger eliminates Philip Seymour Hoffman
Original Screenplay '05: The Squid & the Whale eliminates Crash
Cinematography ’05: The New World eliminates Memoirs of a Geisha
Original Score '05: Brokeback Mountain remains the winner

Supporting Actress ’06: Rinko Kikuchi eliminates Jennifer Hudson
Adapted Screenplay '06: Children of Men eliminates The Departed
Editing '06: Children of Men eliminates The Departed

Years not used: 1927-28 to 1931-32; 1934; 1938.

And the current line-up:

Harry Goldfarb (1 Pass: Actor '79)
FilmFan720 (1 Pass: Picture '55)
MovieWes
dws1982 (2 Pass: Director ’46, Picture '04)
Okri (3 Passes: Supporting ’77; Picture ’43, Actress '58)
Bog (2 Passes: Actor ’62; Cinematography ’75)
Flipp (1 Pass: Original Song ’88)
Penelope (2 Passes: Supporting Actress ’68; Cinematography ’78)
rudeboy (1 Pass: Director ’52)
Original BJ (2 Passes: Supporting Actor ’03, Picture '77)
OscarGuy (1 Pass: Cinematography ’79)
Zahveed (2 Passes: Supporting Actress ’88; Original Score ’05)
RainBard (2 Passes: Supporting Actor ’84; Original Score ’77)
Cinemanolis (1 Pass: Picture '99)
Sabin (1 Pass: Film Editing ’00)

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Ok, so I decided to take away Hattie McDaniel's Oscar--a tough choice for me, since I love her in the film, giving some dignity to a rather demeaning character; but I wanted to honor Maria Ouspenskaya somewhere, since she's always been one of my favorite character actresses from the Golden Age.

So, Harry Goldfarb: Best Actor 1979.




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Penelope, just for the record I'd still like to be in the game... this kind of stuff has become quite important in my life, filled right now with countless responsabilities and I'd hate to see this game OR the whole board in danger... When I click on your "update" link I don't see any list (except for two of the older ones)... with the recent issues (that I've tried to keep myself out of) surrounding the board I'm starting to develop some kind of paranoia and I don't know if I'm one of the unliked or undesirable person in here!

And Italiano, I guess I'm not the only one who'd like to keep reading your posts... as I always say, try to have fun and that's it... I'm kind of childish but I don't want anyone to go...

And back on topic, I always thought than in 1991 there was a general feeling that Juliette Lewis was the front-runner and I've grown accostumed to the apparent fact that she was the one to beat and the eventual "looser"... when the category was given in this game I thought she would end up picking the award. Tandy is great of course, and she would have been a decent winner as well even with his recent previous award, which I don't think anyone should take away from her... nice choice Italiano
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Post by ITALIANO »

Thank you, Penelope. I love this game, and I will keep reading this thread - but for reasons that we can talk about privately from now on I will spend less time writing on this board.
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I'll have my choice up later this evening; I also want to reshuffle the order. Italiano, are you sure you no longer want to participate? I'd like for you to continue your input!
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flipp525 wrote:It's one of the best ones on here as I think you'll agree.
It IS one of the best threads -- and out in the open too!
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flipp525 wrote:Honestly, Italiano, what are you going on about? Let's keep this thread on-topic. It's one of the best ones on here as I think you'll agree.
I agree. But for some reason the thread where this would have been on-topic was invisible to me, flipp - it happens, here. And some - including "good guy" jack (but then this is FilmFan's definition of course) - didn't feel unconfortable at all posting there. A man, he's not- objectively.

So, back on topic - which seems to be the most important thing here - I'll give Penelope Best Supporting Actress, 1939 (hopefully not yet done!).
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