Bush vs. The Queen
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I always thought Nolan shuld have gotten Russ Tamblyn's slot on the nominations list, but Sessue Hayakawa should have won.
Hayakawa was a matinee idol throughout the 1910s and 20s, starring oppoiste some of Hollywood's then top leading ladies. There was no racial divide operating in Hollywood until the talkies came along and roles that he might have played went to Caucasians in squinty eyed make-up.
His great comeback performance was in Three Came Home for which he should have been nominated in 1950. His role in The Bridge on the River Kwai is but a shadow of that great performance, but it was the only opportunity AMPAS ever had to honor him but the membership with its short memory decided TV has-been Red Buttons was more deserving.
Hayakawa was a matinee idol throughout the 1910s and 20s, starring oppoiste some of Hollywood's then top leading ladies. There was no racial divide operating in Hollywood until the talkies came along and roles that he might have played went to Caucasians in squinty eyed make-up.
His great comeback performance was in Three Came Home for which he should have been nominated in 1950. His role in The Bridge on the River Kwai is but a shadow of that great performance, but it was the only opportunity AMPAS ever had to honor him but the membership with its short memory decided TV has-been Red Buttons was more deserving.
Yes, he was promoted as a lead. I remember it specifically because Mason and I saw Peyton Place while we were first writing Inside Oscar and agreed he should have been nominated for -- and probably won -- Supporting Actor and were surprised he was overlooked. Then shortly after we saw the reminder list where he was listed as a lead.Penelope wrote:Really? 20th Century-Fox promoted Nolan for Lead? Or that's just your opinion of where he should be classified?
"Y'know, that's one of the things I like about Mitt Romney. He's been consistent since he changed his mind." -- Christine O'Donnell
You it's kinda funny, because President Bush has met the Queen before. I recall a formal dinner a while back where Mr. Bush was decked out in a tuxedo and he made a very nice speech about how the two countries are intertwined in history as friends. There was no hitch to that night. I think some of the media are playing a game with this, as usual. But in the interest of peace, I will go along with Sabin and avoid this particular discussion about Bush vs. Queen and move on.
"Because here’s the thing about life: There’s no accounting for what fate will deal you. Some days when you need a hand. There are other days when we’re called to lend a hand." -- President Joe Biden, 01/20/2021
Really? 20th Century-Fox promoted Nolan for Lead? Or that's just your opinion of where he should be classified?Damien wrote:Penelope wrote:Ha!! Lloyd Nolan in Peyton Place.
Lloyd Nolan is wonderful in Peyton Place, and certainly Oscar-worthy, but for Academy purposes he was considered a lead.
"...it is the weak who are cruel, and...gentleness is only to be expected from the strong." - Leo Reston
"Cruelty might be very human, and it might be cultural, but it's not acceptable." - Jodie Foster
"Cruelty might be very human, and it might be cultural, but it's not acceptable." - Jodie Foster
Penelope wrote:Ha!! Lloyd Nolan in Peyton Place.
Lloyd Nolan is wonderful in Peyton Place, and certainly Oscar-worthy, but for Academy purposes he was considered a lead.
"Y'know, that's one of the things I like about Mitt Romney. He's been consistent since he changed his mind." -- Christine O'Donnell
Sabin wrote:I say this with a very strong opinion of the one poster's thought process on this issue, but in lieu of any actual progress getting done I recommend we do something a little more useful like poll who should've won Best Supporting Actor in 1957.
Richard Boone in The Tall T. :p
"Y'know, that's one of the things I like about Mitt Romney. He's been consistent since he changed his mind." -- Christine O'Donnell
I'm going to recommend that everybody involved bail on this thread and I'm not joking. It started stupid and it's getting uglier. It's not going to go anywhere for reasons that have been determined years and years prior.
I say this with a very strong opinion of the one poster's thought process on this issue, but in lieu of any actual progress getting done I recommend we do something a little more useful like poll who should've won Best Supporting Actor in 1957.
I say this with a very strong opinion of the one poster's thought process on this issue, but in lieu of any actual progress getting done I recommend we do something a little more useful like poll who should've won Best Supporting Actor in 1957.
"How's the despair?"
Well. that was your original premise, liar.criddic3 wrote: It is incredibly dumb to think that anyone who is against the grain for whatever reason is somehow to be admired.
But hey, it's cool, just slink off and deal with the wood you got thinking about Worst President Ever, a man who actually lies more than you do (which I'm sure adds to the erotic quotient).
"Y'know, that's one of the things I like about Mitt Romney. He's been consistent since he changed his mind." -- Christine O'Donnell
No, no. I admire people who stand up against what is wrong or for what is right, even when it is unpopular. It is incredibly dumb to think that anyone who is against the grain for whatever reason is somehow to be admired. Sometimes the majority is right and sometimes it is wrong. It is up to individuals to decide which is the truth and which is not. I will not let you talk to me like I'm some nut who doesn't know the difference. My original concept is the same as the one I am giving now. I cannot be called a liar for speaking the truth. You have a problem with my politics, and you have a problem with the way I present them. Fine. I get it. But the more you call me a liar, the more I'm gonna defend myself against it.Damien wrote:criddic3 wrote:So they were not people of integrity. It isn't just about standing up for what you believe, but standing up for what is right.
So you're now acknowledging that your original premise was a lie. You do not admire people willing to stand up for umpopular opinions, you only admire the people with whom you agree.
criddic, why don't you waste time and effort and instead of writing your lies, just address every issue with, "I love Worst President Ever. He gives me wood."
"Because here’s the thing about life: There’s no accounting for what fate will deal you. Some days when you need a hand. There are other days when we’re called to lend a hand." -- President Joe Biden, 01/20/2021
So you're now acknowledging that your original premise was a lie. You do not admire people willing to stand up for umpopular opinions, you only admire the people with whom you agree.criddic3 wrote:So they were not people of integrity. It isn't just about standing up for what you believe, but standing up for what is right.
criddic, why don't you waste time and effort and instead of writing your lies, just address every issue with, "I love Worst President Ever. He gives me wood."
"Y'know, that's one of the things I like about Mitt Romney. He's been consistent since he changed his mind." -- Christine O'Donnell