Er, Sabin? I know why you said this. But a newcomer like dreaMaker won't, and he'll/she'll take it the wrong way.dreaMaker wrote:Sabin wrote:(dreaMaker, no offense...but shut UP!)
Lovely. Why should i be quiet? ???
Better 'splain yourself.
Please tell me why do you admire Stone' WTC?
Please tell me why do you admire Stone' WTC?criddic3 wrote:Oh, just enough, criddic. You take a movie and champion it to death to the point of overkill. Last year it was Cinderella Man, this year it's WTC. Just stop already. No one here liked it and aside from technical categories, it's not getting any Oscar nominations. Ugh. Move on.
Actually I'm not championing it beyond saying they should give it a chance. I do not see it as a likely best pic candidate, but I do see a chance for Michael Pena or Maggie Gyllenhaal. And your constant condescension is getting old. Many people aside from me felt that Cinderella Man was snubbed of recognition last year. Several critics, as well as audience members, felt that Russell Crowe deserved a nomination. The fact that he received some late-in-the-game nods from other groups was a sign that I was not the only one (as you seem to imply) who "championed" the film. I know there isn't a lot of love on this board for Ron Howard or Russell Crowe, but I was most definitely not singing praises for a lost cause.
As for World Trade Center, I do not love the film but I do admire it. There's a great distinction between the two. It is not the best film of the year, and may not even be among the top five or perhaps ten, depending on forthcoming titles. However, it is a well-made and often affecting effort, certainly Oliver Stone's best in a long time (since his brilliant, superior Nixon in 1995).
I see your point about over-praising a movie that few of you liked, but your disgust seems disingenuous. Why should anyone deprive a movie-lover of his/her opinion on a film in a film forum? Many of you have praised a film or performance through the Oscar season that had little or no chance, if only to voice your hopes that they might make it into the race. While I am not going to waste breath on a movie I do not love, I think I've taken a simple argument on behalf of both World Trade Center and United 93 that they should not be dismissed because of pre-conceived notions about what they should have been versus what they were. It's not as if neither film was received well enough to suggest even the possibility of Oscar consideration.
You didn't include Eddie Murphy, who's highly likely. (The showy role won a Tony for Cleavant Derricks.)Movielover wrote:Boy that supporting actor race is going to be WIDE open if Griffiths and Nicholson don't go in there.