Cannes 2024

[Sabin]

I think Toni Erdmann had the highest rating in a decade and it won nothing.

[Greg]

Anora has six **** juror ratings which suggests that it is in fact the one to beat thus far.

Although, last year Fallen Leaves had the highest jury grid rating; and, Anatomy Of A Fall won the Palme d'Or.

[Big Magilla]

Anora has six **** juror ratings which suggests that it is in fact the one to beat thus far.

That said, what are these X ratings mean supposed to mean? I took them to mean that the jury member didn't see the film, but whoever applied the percentages counted them as a "no star" or "zero" rating. It seems to me that the totals for those films with X's should have been divided by the number of films seen by the ten or eleven of jurors who saw them, not the full complement of twelve.

[Sabin]

If I haven’t posted the Cannes grid, here it is: https://www.screendaily.com/cannes-jury-grid

[Mister Tee]

Greg wrote
You've been coming up with a new Palme d'Or frontrunner every day for the last few days.

Greg... don't deny me one of the few pleasures in life my boss can't take away from me.

It's the kind of Cannes it is: nothing storming to the front, so anything that gets excited reaction from anyone could be The One.

[Mister Tee]

And now, the new Paolo Sorrentino film, getting at least some very good reviews:

https://variety.com/2024/film/reviews/p ... 236011840/

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movie ... 235903750/

https://deadline.com/2024/05/parthenope ... 235926030/

[Sabin]

Greg wrote
You've been coming up with a new Palme d'Or frontrunner every day for the last few days.

Greg... don't deny me one of the few pleasures in life my boss can't take away from me.

[Greg]

Going off of first reviews but I could definitely see the Gerwig jury going for Anora.

You've been coming up with a new Palme d'Or frontrunner every day for the last few days.

[flipp525]

The Shining should have been ignored, what Kubrick did to Stephen King's novel was a travesty.

Kubrick improved upon the source material and even King has finally come around to admitting that the film adaptation is great after lambasting it for decades and saying he had to turn it off when it appeared on his hotel television once. I re-read it a couple of years ago before I read Doctor Sleep (which is much scarier in some ways) and there are several elements that would simply not have worked in a 1980 adaptation such as the roaming topiary animals which Kubrick smartly turned into the infamous maze.

Wendy is a blonde cheerleader in the book.

[Sabin]

Going off of first reviews but I could definitely see the Gerwig jury going for Anora.


https://variety.com/2024/film/reviews/a ... 236011025/
https://deadline.com/2024/05/anora-revi ... 235925716/
https://www.indiewire.com/criticism/mov ... 67f4510774
https://www.theguardian.com/film/articl ... SApp_Other

[Big Magilla]

It's a refined horror movie. Did you not get the references to Dorian Gray, The Shining, and The Fly?

1) "Audacious, and Insanely Gross Body Horror Masterpiece" -- that's the headline of the IndieWire review

"Grisly Body Horror Caper" -- Guardian headline

How do you get "refined" out of that?

2) Even if I were to accept your analogy to those other films (which I don't):

Dorian Gray, with a literary pedigree, got 3 nominations, only one above the line, nearly 70 years ago.

The Shining was 100% Oscar-ignored.

The Fly got (and, to be fair, won with it) a single nomination, for make-up.

That leads you to 13 nominations?

Could get doesn't mean will get, although from the comments at the press conference in which all those elements were praised by critics from all over the world, suggests that the film will be campaigned in all 13 categories, provided of course that the momentum holds.

The Shining should have been ignored, what Kubrick did to Stephen King's novel was a travesty.

The Picture of Dorian Gray and The Fly still hold up. But in terms of awards, the reaction to this out of nowhere sleeper sounds to me to more likely to approach The Exorcist's 10 nominations and 2 wins or The Silence of the Lambs' 7 nominations and 5 wins.

Although the critics compare it to Dorian Gray, The Shining, The Fly, and John Carpenter's version of The Thing, the story reminds me more of 1966's then underappreciated Seconds which only got one nomination for James Wong Howe's cinematography, but that was then, this is now.

It also reminds more of Lanthimos' past films than his own Cannes submission this year.

So, like everything else, we will see what we will see.

[Sabin]

Speaking of body horror, Cronenberg's The Shrouds sounds both old school (it sounds gross) and personal (it's' about his late wife) and except for Ehrlich it sounds like muted praise at best.

https://www.indiewire.com/criticism/mov ... 235007047/
https://variety.com/2024/film/reviews/t ... 236010116/
https://www.theguardian.com/film/articl ... tival-2024

[Mister Tee]

It's a refined horror movie. Did you not get the references to Dorian Gray, The Shining, and The Fly?

1) "Audacious, and Insanely Gross Body Horror Masterpiece" -- that's the headline of the IndieWire review

"Grisly Body Horror Caper" -- Guardian headline

How do you get "refined" out of that?

2) Even if I were to accept your analogy to those other films (which I don't):

Dorian Gray, with a literary pedigree, got 3 nominations, only one above the line, nearly 70 years ago.

The Shining was 100% Oscar-ignored.

The Fly got (and, to be fair, won with it) a single nomination, for make-up.

That leads you to 13 nominations?

[Big Magilla]

Magilla, are you on uppers or something? Did you not get from the reviews that The Substance is a horror movie? An apparently quite gross horror movie? Hasn't the experience of Hereditary and Us demonstrated that even horror movies critics rally behind just don't fly with Academy voters? Never say never, of course, but 13 nominations? Come on.

It's a refined horror movie. Did you not get the references to Dorian Gray, The Shining, and The Fly?

It's also a Me-Too movie which Moore, Quaid, and the director were quick to point out at the press conference doesn't mean anti-men but anti-jerk.

And Sabin, MUBI has streaming rights, not so sure they have theatrical distribution rights even though IMDb. says they do. Universal produced the film. They might want to take charge of the film's U.S. distribution as well as its Oscar campaign.

[Sabin]

dws1982 wrote
Jia Zhangke's film Caught by the Tide has quietly become one of the most acclaimed films out of the festival, although it got buried in the discourse between Emilia Perez and The Substance. Jia has been an international mainstay for about twenty years now, so I could see him being a compromise choice for a big prize.

The Cannes grid has Caught by the Tide at 2.6, The Substance at 2.7, and Emilia Perez at 2.5. So yes, I could see that happening. Jia Zhangke really has been under-rewarded at this festival.