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Big Magilla wrote:In the old days, at least through Bosley Crowther at the end of 1967, and for a number of years thereafter, the organization was mainstream and a reliable precursor of the Oscars. Now it's a radical organization that would vote for a 3 hour "film" called White Rabbit in the Snow consisting of a blank white screen with no sound and no projection in which you have to use your imagination to see the rabbit and the snow, the sole purpose of which is to convince the general public that they're smarter than the public is.
Sounds like the vast majority of Greek critics would fit right in.
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Reza wrote:
Big Magilla wrote:Nomadland is off the table.

Its scheduled release date of 12/4 didn't happen in New York. The film has not been reviewed by the New York Times. The new opening date is apparently 2/21/2021. Probably the same for L.A.
I guess the film did open in NY for it to have qualified
It's a matter of interpretation. For the New York Times, that special showing via Lincoln Center was no more relevant to New York filmgoing for the general public than a showing at the New York Film Festival which plays there. But the critics of the New York Times do not vote with the New York Film Critics which is a long way from the organization of old.

In the old days, at least through Bosley Crowther at the end of 1967, and for a number of years thereafter, the organization was mainstream and a reliable precursor of the Oscars. Now it's a radical organization that would vote for a 3 hour "film" called White Rabbit in the Snow consisting of a blank white screen with no sound and no projection in which you have to use your imagination to see the rabbit and the snow, the sole purpose of which is to convince the general public that they're smarter than the public is.
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I didn't look deep enough into the cast list. He's listed fourteenth on the IMDb list of actors in the film, so I entirely missed him.
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Not a lot to say here. Apart from Da 5 Bloods actors, this reflects the Boston template: three efforts (First Cow, Nomadland, Never Rarely Sometimes Always) dominant, not one of which seems the type to do very well at the Oscars. It remains to be seen if the year's paltry choices will bump any of them into greater contention than they'd normally achieve.

I have to say, the screenplay prize to Never Rarely Sometimes Always gets in my craw the most. I know, the current sophisticated take is "you know, screenplays are more than dialogue", but that's not the historic norm. When we speak of great screenwriters, we think Wilder, Sturges, Woody Allen -- and, in more modern terms, Payne, Jonze, Wes Anderson; all known for the crispness of their dialogue. Even the long list of NY winners adheres to that tradition:

https://www.nyfcc.com/awards/?cat=7

Find me an example on that list that foretells a win for a film whose lead character is close to non-verbal. (I'm not over the moon about her performance, either, and question whether she can make it with the Oscars despite these critics' wins, but that's a separate issue.)

I do find it interesting that Da 5 Bloods was more popular with these critics, despite being the Netflix offering most dismissed by bloggers (and many here). I haven't watched Ma Rainey yet. but, of all the Netfllix contenders I've seen, it's the one for which I had the most enthusiasm (despite its glaring flaws). Most people are predicting more Oscar attention for Chicago 7/Mank, but maybe Spike's movie has more staying power than assumed.

Still officially don't care about any of this.
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Big Magilla wrote:Nomadland is off the table.

Its scheduled release date of 12/4 didn't happen in New York. The film has not been reviewed by the New York Times. The new opening date is apparently 2/21/2021. Probably the same for L.A.
I guess the film did open in NY for it to have qualified
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So will the Academy pick any of these choices?
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Best Film: First Cow
Best First Film: The Forty Year Old Version
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FilmFan720 wrote:
Big Magilla wrote:Boseman is in the film in flashback scenes. He's the dead guy whose remains the other four came back for. It's not much of a role but I guess it makes a convenient way to honor him if you're not going to give him Best Actor for Ma Rainey.
It isn't, but he is pretty magnetic in the film and important to its success.
Yeah, he definitely makes an impression --which is vital to the film's success; you have to believe this guy was an important enough presence in everyone's life to motivate their behavior (along with, of course, the money). The role required a certain charisma, and Boseman provides it.
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Big Magilla wrote:Boseman is in the film in flashback scenes. He's the dead guy whose remains the other four came back for. It's not much of a role but I guess it makes a convenient way to honor him if you're not going to give him Best Actor for Ma Rainey.
It isn't, but he is pretty magnetic in the film and important to its success.
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Yup! There was a glitch. Two in a row.

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Yeah, I missed Sara Stewart, listed as "a critic for the Post" , not the main one whoever that might be now.

Of course, several members including Joe Morgenstern originally worked for New York papers.

My front page of the NYFCC website hasn't updated since 2018 although the side bar has. I've been following Awards Daily where two people have confirmed the Sidney Franklin win.
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Nope. They just announced it. Sidney Flanigan.
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Big Magilla wrote:Interestingly, although the New York Film Critics, later the New York Film Critics Circle, was comprised for many years of just those critics who worked for NYC's newspapers, none of the present members work for any of the three remaining NYC papers, the Times, News, or Post.
https://www.nyfcc.com/membership/
Actually, way down the list, there's one Post employee.

I knew the Times kept its critics from voting, but didn't know the Daily News was also left off. Then again, it's a couple of years since I bought the Daily News

FYI: the NYFCC main awards page says Sidney Flanigan won best actress, and has for ten minutes without a corresponding tweet. Maybe a glitch, or a premature leak?
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Interestingly, although the New York Film Critics, later the New York Film Critics Circle, was comprised for many years of just those critics who worked for NYC's newspapers, none of the present members work for any of the three remaining NYC papers, the Times, News, or Post.
https://www.nyfcc.com/membership/
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SPECIAL AWARD: Spike Lee for inspiring the New York community with his short film “New York New York” and for advocating for a better society through cinema.
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