Big Magilla wrote
They have already declared Sacha Baron Cohen lead in Trial of the Chicago 7 so he isn't getting a supporting actor nod for that.
I didn't see that. Please provide a link.
Correction: I seem to have misremembered. It's discussed in the original link, but it's unclear whether they prevailed or Netflix talked them out of it.
"Sacha Baron Cohen and Eddie Redmayne’s work in Aaron Sorkin’s “The Trial of the Chicago 7” was also discussed to be moved from supporting to lead classifications but it’s not clear if the Netflix featured ultimately prevailed."
Just because the Globes have ruled Hamilton eligible in the Comedy or Musical category instead of the TV category doesn't mean they're going to vote for it even though the Comedy or Musical slate is pretty thin this year.
They have already declared Sacha Baron Cohen lead in Trial of the Chicago 7 so he isn't getting a supporting actor nod for that.
I still say it's more likely the four stars of One Night in Miami will be ruled leads rather than supporting players, once they make up their minds, which means that Leslie Odom Jr. could find himself outside the Globe bubble.
Two for Meryl Streep, but none for Candice Bergen? Doesn't seem right.
BEST MOTION PICTURE - DRAMA Da 5 Bloods
Mank
Nomadland
One Night in Miami...
The Trial of the Chicago 7
BEST MOTION PICTURE - MUSICAL or COMEDY Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
Emma
Hamilton
Palm Springs
The Prom
BEST ACTOR IN A MOTION PICTURE - DRAMA
Riz Ahmed, Sound of Metal
Chadwick Boseman, Ma Rainey's Black Bottom
Anthony Hopkins, The Father
Delroy Lindo, Da 5 Bloods
Gary Oldman, Mank
BEST ACTRESS IN A MOTION PICTURE - DRAMA
Viola Davis, Ma Rainey's Black Bottom
Vanessa Kirby, Pieces of a Woman
Sophia Loren, The Life Ahead
Frances McDormand, Nomadland
Carey Mulligan, Promising Young Woman
BEST ACTOR IN A MOTION PICTURE - MUSICAL or COMEDY
Sacha Baron Cohen, Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
Lin-Manuel Miranda, Hamilton
Leslie Odom Jr., Hamilton
Dev Patel, The Personal History of David Copperfield
Andy Samberg, Palm Springs
BEST ACTRESS IN A MOTION PICTURE - MUSICAL or COMEDY
Maria Bakalova, Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
Michelle Pfieffer, French Exit
Rosamund Pike, I Care A Lot
Meryl Streep, The Prom
Anya Taylor-Joy, Emma
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A MOTION PICTURE
Sacha Baron Cohen, The Trial of the Chicago 7
Chadwick Boseman, Da 5 Bloods
Daniel Kaluuya, Judas and the Black Messiah
Leslie Odom Jr., One Night in Miami...
Paul Raci, Sound of Metal
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A MOTION PICTURE
Ellen Burstyn, Pieces of a Woman
Glenn Close, Hillbilly Elegy
Olivia Colman, The Father
Renee Elise Goldsberry, Hamilton
Amanda Seyfried, Mank
BEST DIRECTOR FOR A MOTION PICTURE
Lee Isaac Chung, Minari
David Fincher, Mank
Regina King, One Night in Miami...
Spike Lee, Da 5 Bloods
Chloe Zhao, Nomadland
BEST SCREENPLAY FOR A MOTION PICTURE
Lee Isaac Chung, Minari
Jack Fincher, Mank
Kemp Powers, One Night In Miami...
Aaron Sorkin, The Trial of the Chicago 7
Chloe Zhao, Nomadland
BEST ANIMATED FEATURE Onward
Over the Moon
A Shaun the Sheep Movie: Farmageddon
Soul
Wolfwalkers
BEST FOREIGN-LANGUAGE FILM Another Round, Denmark I Carry You With Me, Mexico/USA The Life Ahead, Italy Minari, USA/South Korea Song Without a Name, Peru
BEST ORIGINAL SCORE FOR A MOTION PICTURE
Branford Marsalis, Ma Rainey's Black Bottom
Emile Mosseri, Minari
James Newton Howard, News of the World
Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross, Mank
Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross and Jon Batiste, Soul
BEST ORIGINAL SONG FOR A MOTION PICTURE
"Hear My Voice", The Trial of the Chicago 7
"lo Si (Seen)", The Life Ahead
"Rocket to the Moon", Over the Moon
"Speak Now", One Night in Miami...
"Wear Your Crown", The Prom
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Big Magilla wrote
Davis could be in the same category as Bakalova if Ma Rainey is deemed a musical rather than a drama and Pfeiffer isn't out of it yet. French Exit was pushed to 2021 months ago, unlike Nomadland and The Father which were last minute switches and therefore not considered by any of the critics' groups.
Is French Exit not competing? I'm pretty sure it's opening within the window.
And yes, I know that Davis could be competing in the same category. But if she's not, then Bakalova has a pretty good chance at winning.
Sabin wrote:
- I initially thought Maria Bakalova being pushed to lead was equally foolish but if Viola Davis isn't in the same category, she might have a clear ride to victory. Michelle Pfeiffer does not seem like she is picking up momentum for French Exit at all.
- Pushing all the One Night in Miami gents to supporting is the right move. I don't know if Kingsley Ben-Adair will get a nomination alongside Leslie Odom, Jr. (who will likely be double-nominee Leslie Odom, Jr.) but he certainly deserves it and it's more likely o happen that way.
Davis could be in the same category as Bakalova if Ma Rainey is deemed a musical rather than a drama and Pfeiffer isn't out of it yet. French Exit was pushed to 2021 months ago, unlike Nomadland and The Father which were last minute switches and therefore not considered by any of the critics' groups.
The Globes more frequently push borderline contenders to lead than support so the Miami men could all end up competing in lead. That film has a huge cast. Maybe they want to consider some of the other players like Beau Bridges or Jeremy Pope in support. And if Odom and Pope sing as Sam Cooke and Jackie Wilson, maybe they'll want to consider it a musical, too. Just kidding with the last one!
The only inconsistency seems to be allowing Saoirse Ronan to remain in support for Ammonite.
- Promising Young Woman being moved to Drama is pretty foolish. Carey Mulligan could've possibly won the Golden Globe for Best Comedy/Musical even if Viola Davis was moved to the same category.
- I initially thought Maria Bakalova being pushed to lead was equally foolish but if Viola Davis isn't in the same category, she might have a clear ride to victory. Michelle Pfeiffer does not seem like she is picking up momentum for French Exit at all.
- Pushing all the One Night in Miami gents to supporting is the right move. I don't know if Kingsley Ben-Adair will get a nomination alongside Leslie Odom, Jr. (who will likely be double-nominee Leslie Odom, Jr.) but he certainly deserves it and it's more likely o happen that way.
- If Ma Rainey's Black Bottom is a Comedy or Musical but Bohemian Rhapsody and A Star is Born are Dramas, then I just don't even know anymore.
- It looks like Minari will be winning best Foreign-Language Film. Not a bad move for them.
- Hamilton could easily end up a nomination leader with some combination of nominations for Best Comedy or Musical Film, Actor (Miranda), Actor (Odom, Jr.), Supporting Actor (Groff), Supporting Actress (Gosberry), and Supporting Actress (Soo).
- Helena Zengel and Maria Bakalova will compete in the LEAD categories in Drama and Comedy respectively.
- Hamilton will compete in the Comedy/Musical FILM categories. Lin-Manuel Miranda and Leslie Odom Jr. will be in Lead. Everyone else is Supporting.
- It's not yet final but Ma Rainey's Black Bottom might also go Comedy/Musical.
- The men of One Night in Miami will not be split up in Lead and Supporting. All four submitted names (Kingsley Ben-Adair, Leslie Odom Jr., Aldis Hodge and Eli Goree) will compete in the same category. It hasn't been decided if it's Lead or Supporting.
