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Oh, please; it has nothing whatsoever with being a "fanboy"--honestly, how can you compare the almost painterly exquisite cinematography of Brokeback with the dull, lifeless cinematography of The New World? And don't get me started on the even more dull Good Night and Go To Sleep.
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"Cruelty might be very human, and it might be cultural, but it's not acceptable." - Jodie Foster
"Cruelty might be very human, and it might be cultural, but it's not acceptable." - Jodie Foster
Penelope wrote:Oh, I don't find it difficult at all; Brokeback is pretty near perfect cinematography, The New World is pretty...pretty, but also rather dull after awhile.
Oh COME ON!! You fanboys are out of your mind. I liked Brokeback too but it didn't even deserve to be nominated in this category. There's no way its competently bland photography holds a candle to the beautiful storytelling Lubezki brings to The New World. You can prefer Brokeback as a film, but "perfect cinematography?!"
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Oh, I don't find it difficult at all; Brokeback is pretty near perfect cinematography, The New World is pretty...pretty, but also rather dull after awhile.Eric wrote:rolotomasi99 wrote:2005
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN
THE NEW WORLD
I find it hard to believe anyone would rank anything above The New World in this category (and I didn't even like the movie all that much), but in particular not Brokeback.
"...it is the weak who are cruel, and...gentleness is only to be expected from the strong." - Leo Reston
"Cruelty might be very human, and it might be cultural, but it's not acceptable." - Jodie Foster
"Cruelty might be very human, and it might be cultural, but it's not acceptable." - Jodie Foster
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I wonder if the recent surge in cinematographical distinctiveness is a rebellion by DPs against the advent/revolution of digital cinema. They may be churning out their best work just to avoid the desire by some studios to take the cheaper route.
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good years for cinemtography:
(five nominees listed in order of quality, imo)
2006
CHILDREN OF MEN
THE PRESTIGE
PAN'S LABYRINTH
THE BLACK DAHLIA
THE ILLUSIONIST
2005
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN
THE NEW WORLD
GOOD NIGH AND GOOD LUCK
MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA
BATMAN BEGINS (should have been replaced by MUNICH)
1999
SNOW FALLING ON CEDARS
THE INSIDER
SLEEPY HOLLOW
AMERICAN BEAUTY
THE END OF THE AFFAIR
1994
THE PIANO
FAREWELL MY CONCUBINE
SCHINDLER'S LIST
SEARCHING FOR BOBBY FISCHER
THE FUGITIVE (should have been replaced by THE AGE OF INNOCENCE)
1987
THE LAST EMPEROR
EMPIRE OF THE SUN
MATEWAN
HOPE AND GLORY
BROADCAST NEWS
1985
THE KILLING FIELDS
AMADEUS
A PASSAGE TO INDIA
THE NATURAL
THE RIVER
1980
RAGING BULL
TESS
COAL MINER'S DAUGHTER
THE BLUE LAGOON
THE FORMULA (should have been replaced by THE ELEPHANT MAN)
1967
BONNIE AND CLYDE
THE GRADUATE
IN COLD BLOOD
CAMELOT
DOCTOR DOLITTLE (should have been replaced by COOL HAND LUKE)
i will never understand why it took them until 1967 to do away with the color/black and white split. lots of great work prior to 1967, but i do not know enough to distinguish specific years.
(five nominees listed in order of quality, imo)
2006
CHILDREN OF MEN
THE PRESTIGE
PAN'S LABYRINTH
THE BLACK DAHLIA
THE ILLUSIONIST
2005
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN
THE NEW WORLD
GOOD NIGH AND GOOD LUCK
MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA
BATMAN BEGINS (should have been replaced by MUNICH)
1999
SNOW FALLING ON CEDARS
THE INSIDER
SLEEPY HOLLOW
AMERICAN BEAUTY
THE END OF THE AFFAIR
1994
THE PIANO
FAREWELL MY CONCUBINE
SCHINDLER'S LIST
SEARCHING FOR BOBBY FISCHER
THE FUGITIVE (should have been replaced by THE AGE OF INNOCENCE)
1987
THE LAST EMPEROR
EMPIRE OF THE SUN
MATEWAN
HOPE AND GLORY
BROADCAST NEWS
1985
THE KILLING FIELDS
AMADEUS
A PASSAGE TO INDIA
THE NATURAL
THE RIVER
1980
RAGING BULL
TESS
COAL MINER'S DAUGHTER
THE BLUE LAGOON
THE FORMULA (should have been replaced by THE ELEPHANT MAN)
1967
BONNIE AND CLYDE
THE GRADUATE
IN COLD BLOOD
CAMELOT
DOCTOR DOLITTLE (should have been replaced by COOL HAND LUKE)
i will never understand why it took them until 1967 to do away with the color/black and white split. lots of great work prior to 1967, but i do not know enough to distinguish specific years.
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Oh, I'd say only 3 of last year's nominees--Pan's Labyrinth, The Black Dahlia and Children of Men--were worthy of the nomination. (Unless you're referring to other films that weren't nominated, like Marie Antoinette, Flags of Our Fathers, Letters From Iwo Jima, even Babel.)Eric wrote:Penelope wrote:You know, Cinematography could very well be the best line-up of the year, assuming Assassination, No Country, Diving Bell & Butterfly, Sweeney Todd and Atonement make it in (can't yet say about There Will Be Blood, but everyone's cumming in their pants over that one, too)
It would be hard to top last year's line-up, but we'll have to see.
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"Cruelty might be very human, and it might be cultural, but it's not acceptable." - Jodie Foster
"Cruelty might be very human, and it might be cultural, but it's not acceptable." - Jodie Foster
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It would be hard to top last year's line-up, but we'll have to see.Penelope wrote:You know, Cinematography could very well be the best line-up of the year, assuming Assassination, No Country, Diving Bell & Butterfly, Sweeney Todd and Atonement make it in (can't yet say about There Will Be Blood, but everyone's cumming in their pants over that one, too)
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PICTURE
Atonement
Into the Wild
No Country for Old Men
Sweeney Todd
There Will Be Blood
DIRECTOR
Julian Schnabel - The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Sean Penn - Into the Wild
Joel Coen, Ethan Coen - No Country for Old Men
Tim Burton - Sweeney Todd
Paul Thomas Anderson - There Will Be Blood
ACTOR
George Clooney - Michael Clayton
Daniel Day-Lewis - There Will Be Blood
Johnny Depp - Sweeney Todd
Ryan Gosling - Lars and the Real Girl
Viggo Mortenson - Eastern Promises
ACTRESS
Jane Adams - Enchanted
Julie Christie - Away from Her
Marion Cotillard - La Vie en Rose
Angelina Jolie - A Mighty Heart
Ellen Page - Juno
SUPPORTING ACTOR
Casey Affleck - The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Javier Bardem - No Country for Old Men
Philip Seymour Hoffman - Charlie Wilson's War
Hal Holbrook - Into the Wild
Tom Wilkinson - Michael Clayton
SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett - I'm Not There
Catherine Keener - Into the Wild
Saoirse Ronan - Atonement
Amy Ryan - Gone Baby Gone
Tilda Swinton - Michael Clayton
ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Eastern Promises
Juno
Lars and the Real Girl
Michael Clayton
Once
ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
Atonement
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Gone Baby Gone
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood
ANIMATED
Persepolis
Ratatouille
The Simpsons Movie
CINEMATOGRAPHY
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Atonement
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Into the Wild
No Country for Old Men
EDITING
American Gangster
Michael Clayton
No Country for Old Men
Sweeney Todd
There Will Be Blood
ART DIRECTION
Atonement
Hairspray
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Lust, Caution
Sweeney Todd
COSTUME
Atonement
The Golden Age
Hairsrpay
Sweeney Todd
There Will Be Blood
ORIGINAL SCORE
Atonement
Beowulf
Eastern Promises
Lust, Caution
There Will Be Blood
ORIGINAL SONG
"Come so Far" - Hairspray
"Falling Slowly" - Once
"Guaranteed" - Into the Wild
"If You Want Me" - Once
"That's How You Know" - Enchanted
SOUND
American Gangster
Atonement
No Country for Old Men
Sweeney Todd
Transformers
SOUND EDITING
3:10 to Yuma
Beowulf
The Golden Compass
Ratatouille
Transformers
FX
The Golden Compass
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Transformers
MAKE-UP
Hairspray
Love in the Time of Cholera
Sweeney Todd
Atonement
Into the Wild
No Country for Old Men
Sweeney Todd
There Will Be Blood
DIRECTOR
Julian Schnabel - The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Sean Penn - Into the Wild
Joel Coen, Ethan Coen - No Country for Old Men
Tim Burton - Sweeney Todd
Paul Thomas Anderson - There Will Be Blood
ACTOR
George Clooney - Michael Clayton
Daniel Day-Lewis - There Will Be Blood
Johnny Depp - Sweeney Todd
Ryan Gosling - Lars and the Real Girl
Viggo Mortenson - Eastern Promises
ACTRESS
Jane Adams - Enchanted
Julie Christie - Away from Her
Marion Cotillard - La Vie en Rose
Angelina Jolie - A Mighty Heart
Ellen Page - Juno
SUPPORTING ACTOR
Casey Affleck - The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Javier Bardem - No Country for Old Men
Philip Seymour Hoffman - Charlie Wilson's War
Hal Holbrook - Into the Wild
Tom Wilkinson - Michael Clayton
SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett - I'm Not There
Catherine Keener - Into the Wild
Saoirse Ronan - Atonement
Amy Ryan - Gone Baby Gone
Tilda Swinton - Michael Clayton
ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Eastern Promises
Juno
Lars and the Real Girl
Michael Clayton
Once
ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
Atonement
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Gone Baby Gone
No Country for Old Men
There Will Be Blood
ANIMATED
Persepolis
Ratatouille
The Simpsons Movie
CINEMATOGRAPHY
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Atonement
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Into the Wild
No Country for Old Men
EDITING
American Gangster
Michael Clayton
No Country for Old Men
Sweeney Todd
There Will Be Blood
ART DIRECTION
Atonement
Hairspray
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Lust, Caution
Sweeney Todd
COSTUME
Atonement
The Golden Age
Hairsrpay
Sweeney Todd
There Will Be Blood
ORIGINAL SCORE
Atonement
Beowulf
Eastern Promises
Lust, Caution
There Will Be Blood
ORIGINAL SONG
"Come so Far" - Hairspray
"Falling Slowly" - Once
"Guaranteed" - Into the Wild
"If You Want Me" - Once
"That's How You Know" - Enchanted
SOUND
American Gangster
Atonement
No Country for Old Men
Sweeney Todd
Transformers
SOUND EDITING
3:10 to Yuma
Beowulf
The Golden Compass
Ratatouille
Transformers
FX
The Golden Compass
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Transformers
MAKE-UP
Hairspray
Love in the Time of Cholera
Sweeney Todd
It's Elswitt. Promise. I'm all about Deakins this year but 'There Will Be Blood' is the aesthetic marriage of both Deakins' formal audacity in 'No Country for Old Men' and dreamy lyricism in 'Assassination'. Quite frankly, if either Deakins or Elswitt triumphs, it will be the strongest winner since Janusz took it for 'Ryan'. And even there, I would have been more happy with a Toll victory.
Last year's Cinematography slate was fantastic (save for 'The Illusionist' which was primarily DI-ed). This year will be prove to be the stuff of legends.
Last year's Cinematography slate was fantastic (save for 'The Illusionist' which was primarily DI-ed). This year will be prove to be the stuff of legends.
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yeah, i think deakins should be writing his acceptance speech now...for THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES.rudeboy wrote:If ever it was going to re-occur, this would be the year. But if only one Deakins effort makes it, I agree with rolotomasi99 that Assassination is the one. I'd tentatively call him a good bet for the win for that one.
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-- Amy Poehler in praise of Zero Dark Thirty director Kathryn Bigelow
-- Amy Poehler in praise of Zero Dark Thirty director Kathryn Bigelow